Comments on: Southall (Ealing) Box Junctions

By: Dave Allison

Dave Allison — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 11:42:32 +0000

Hi my wife & I were driving in seperate cars after a meeting. Both caught in the yellow box at The Broadway / Herbert Road, Southall. The traffic was slow moving on our direction of travel but grid locked on our opposite side. We entered the box junction thinking we were keeping the traffic flowing, we came to a stand still in the junction for 4 secounds and 8 secounds respectively. Common sense has to privail. How can we get out of this ? Please advise.

By: Alan

Alan — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:55:04 +0000

Do you have any appeal docs or info regarding enforceability of Herbert Rd – Broadway yellow box junction in Southall please?

I am proceeding with a PATAS appeal based on being blocked by a car enetering from the side road (Herbert Rd) and blocking my exit. The video evidence supports my view of the events but was rejected by the LBE. Any additional information on the junction would be a great help.

Thanks

By: pam

pam — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 22:48:52 +0000

I’ve just been issues a PCN by Ealing Council for a box junction violation. Photo supplied shows me with two front wheels just inside the box junction, waiting for the car in front to move out of the box junction and a car in the box junction turning into the box junction. I do not recall stopping at any time in any box junction except when turning right! This is at the Greenford rd/Otter Rd junction. Is this box junction legal? I know others in Ealing have been deemed “illegal”.
In response to others using the site, I have appealed at least 3 cases involving parking, which I have successfully appealed and WON. I am fed up of Ealing Council targeting law abiding motorists – they cannot even target the law breakers, those who run through red lights and those that knock down young children on pedestrian crossings, or those that park on double yellow or red lines. The last one involved parking in a parking bay at Greenford station. Next to it was a marked loading bay, yet they gave me a ticket for parking correctly, and well within the alloted time! Things I have found out whilst appealing incorrectly issued PCN’s include: you can park in a loading bay, but you must commence loading within 3 minutes… (Shopping/passengers/deliveries- but this is not stipulated on the signs!)
You can also drop people off by stopping on double yellow lines, as long as you do not get out of the car to open the passenger door for a disabled person.
If a disabled bay is in a colour other than yellow, and you have mistaken it for a mother & toddler bay, then you can appeal as the signs are confusing and misleading.
You are allowed 2-3 minutes over your parking ticket time, but you must move your car…even if you are heavily pregnant and struggling to load two other stubborn children & shopping whilst the warden looks at you and issues the ticket before your parking ticket has run out.
You can park in front of a lowered driveway unless a car is parked in the drive. If your car is blocked in the police do nothing anyway.
Greenford and Southall police stations are very unhelpful and lose complaints you make against them. They don’t prosecute hit and run drivers either. Even with witnesses. They do not view CCTV footage if a motorbike hits your car, and if a burglary is being carried out in front of your house (with burglar alarm)and you report it they cannot be bothered to come out, even if you get your neighbours to call them as well!!!
We are paying tax for them to not do all of this as well!!!

By: Mouses

Mouses — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 18:30:23 +0000

~plse help me
I got PCN on the yellow Box Junction at Greenford Road and Otter road UB6, I suspected the markings are not up to the Kerbs. they told me they have video evidence what can I do ? how can I challenge this?

god bless you all

By: Robbie

Robbie — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:53:52 +0000

Hi,.

Was just wondering if there was any info about the yellow box junction at Herbert Road/The Broadway in Southall. Got a PCN on Saturday. Have paid it but thinking now i shouldn’t have. Any info about this junction would be great.

By: Yaz

Yaz — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 17:08:27 +0000

Hi Dawn, can you let me know the outcome of your hearing broadyway/herbert rd. Just got a ticket and am wondering if’s it’s worth contesting as only have a week left to do it in.

Thanks

By: Jon Howell

Jon Howell — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 11:06:39 +0000

Do you have any appeal docs or info regarding enforceability of Herbert Rd / Broadway yellow box junction?

By: Mark

Mark — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 01:01:18 +0000

Answer to above question would be I guess, small claims court, pay your tenner or whatever it is nowadays and see what they say oh and if you do go this route claim admin costs etc. If people sue and win then they may change their minds. And if you do win then take it to the press.

Mark

By: Rich

Rich — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 16:24:37 +0000

Hello
I got a PCN for the South Rd/St Josephs yellow box back in March ‘08 which I duly paid.
After reading in the local press that there was a pending case to decide whether the yellow box was legal or not I thought I might get my money back – but heard nothing more.
Today I phoned Ealing council and asked for an update.
I was told that the ruling that the South Road yellow boxes were in fact illegal was made on June 20th 2008, and that because my ‘offence’ was committed before that date, the council “are not prepared to issue a refund”.
I said that in my opinion the yellow boxes were illegal from the date of installation AND THEY ACTUALLY AGREED WITH ME!
But still they keep my money – theft in my book!
Is anyone else in this situation?

By: Dev

Dev — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 15:53:14 +0000

Hi, i would just like to say a big thank you for helping me with my appeal. I received a ticket because my car was in the south rd box junction for about 10 seconds!. I downloaded the various documents from this site and appealed the ticket. A few days before the hearing date Ealing Council wrote to me and said that they will not be contesting the appeal and the hearing was cancelled. Thank you